Comments on: Reflections, imagery, and illusions: the past, present and future of training the brain in CRPS http://bodyinmind.com.au/reflections-imagery-and-illusions-the-past-present-and-future-of-training-the-brain-in-crps/ Research into the role of the brain and mind in chronic pain disorders Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:42:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: TED Talk – Ramachandran on Capgras syndrome, Phantom Limb Pain and Synesthesia http://bodyinmind.com.au/reflections-imagery-and-illusions-the-past-present-and-future-of-training-the-brain-in-crps/#comment-1563 TED Talk – Ramachandran on Capgras syndrome, Phantom Limb Pain and Synesthesia Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:10:04 +0000 http://www.bodyinmind.com.au/?p=1463#comment-1563 [...] thoughts on training the brain in CRPS: Reflections, imagery, and illusions: the past, present and future of training the brain in complex r.... Cancel [...] [...] thoughts on training the brain in CRPS: Reflections, imagery, and illusions: the past, present and future of training the brain in complex r…. Cancel [...]

]]> By: Diane Jacobs http://bodyinmind.com.au/reflections-imagery-and-illusions-the-past-present-and-future-of-training-the-brain-in-crps/#comment-159 Diane Jacobs Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:39:02 +0000 http://www.bodyinmind.com.au/?p=1463#comment-159 Hi to you too Lorimer - Thanks for clarifying, and congratulations on launching your excellent blog. I've already retweeted several of your posts. Feel free to visit the facebook page sometime. :) Hi to you too Lorimer –
Thanks for clarifying, and congratulations on launching your excellent blog. I’ve already retweeted several of your posts. Feel free to visit the facebook page sometime. :)

]]> By: admin http://bodyinmind.com.au/reflections-imagery-and-illusions-the-past-present-and-future-of-training-the-brain-in-crps/#comment-155 admin Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:01:51 +0000 http://www.bodyinmind.com.au/?p=1463#comment-155 Hi Diane - Thanks a mil for posting on our new site! I know 'neurons that fire together wire together' is a shortening of Hebb's law - When an axon of cell A is near enough to excite cell B and repeatedly or persistently takes part in firing it, some growth process or metabolic change takes place in one or both cells such that A's efficiency, as one of the cells firing B, is increased. However, Freud was a neurophysiologist before he gave it all away to heal the minds of distressed women. He undertook neurophysiological experiments and had a theory to explain mental functions that involved 'nerve nets' and proposed that when neurons were active together, the strength of the nerve net was increased - basically neurons that fire together wire together. Hebb openly attributes some of his direction to his readings on Freud and ultimately Hebb reawoke Freud's idea, turned it into Hebbian Theory and obviously did great work testing it. There is a common (and feircely protected!) belief among Freudian's that Siggie should get the credit for the phrase itself, although he would have said "nerves that fire together wire together". However, your email reminds me that a critical word was missing in that post - "purportedly" - I couldn't find the quote when i asked professor google and I imagine that if it is written anywhere, Professor Google would have found it. I now wonder if I dreamt it all up - I am the first to admit the brain can do such things. That Freud would have said something like "Neuronen die zusammen abfeuern Draht zusammen" also makes me wonder if the attribution of the phrase itself is misguided. Regardless of all that, I appreciate your post and I hope you are superb! Hi Diane -
Thanks a mil for posting on our new site! I know ‘neurons that fire together wire together’ is a shortening of Hebb’s law -
When an axon of cell A is near enough to excite cell B and repeatedly or persistently takes part in firing it, some growth process or metabolic change takes place in one or both cells such that A’s efficiency, as one of the cells firing B, is increased.
However, Freud was a neurophysiologist before he gave it all away to heal the minds of distressed women. He undertook neurophysiological experiments and had a theory to explain mental functions that involved ‘nerve nets’ and proposed that when neurons were active together, the strength of the nerve net was increased – basically neurons that fire together wire together. Hebb openly attributes some of his direction to his readings on Freud and ultimately Hebb reawoke Freud’s idea, turned it into Hebbian Theory and obviously did great work testing it. There is a common (and feircely protected!) belief among Freudian’s that Siggie should get the credit for the phrase itself, although he would have said “nerves that fire together wire together”. However, your email reminds me that a critical word was missing in that post – “purportedly” – I couldn’t find the quote when i asked professor google and I imagine that if it is written anywhere, Professor Google would have found it. I now wonder if I dreamt it all up – I am the first to admit the brain can do such things. That Freud would have said something like “Neuronen die zusammen abfeuern Draht zusammen” also makes me wonder if the attribution of the phrase itself is misguided. Regardless of all that, I appreciate your post and I hope you are superb!

]]> By: Diane Jacobs http://bodyinmind.com.au/reflections-imagery-and-illusions-the-past-present-and-future-of-training-the-brain-in-crps/#comment-143 Diane Jacobs Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:30:42 +0000 http://www.bodyinmind.com.au/?p=1463#comment-143 Hi Lorimer, "Sigmund Freud, a gifted neurologist as well as an influential psychoanalyst, coined the phrase “neurons that fire together wire together” to capture this property of neurons; the more a network of neurons is activated, the more easily it activates." I think Donald Hebb coined that phrase, not Freud. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_O._Hebb#The_Organization_of_Behavior_.281949.29 Hi Lorimer,
“Sigmund Freud, a gifted neurologist as well as an influential psychoanalyst, coined the phrase “neurons that fire together wire together” to capture this property of neurons; the more a network of neurons is activated, the more easily it activates.”

I think Donald Hebb coined that phrase, not Freud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_O._Hebb#The_Organization_of_Behavior_.281949.29

]]> By: Dr House tries the mirror box therapy http://bodyinmind.com.au/reflections-imagery-and-illusions-the-past-present-and-future-of-training-the-brain-in-crps/#comment-138 Dr House tries the mirror box therapy Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:44:30 +0000 http://www.bodyinmind.com.au/?p=1463#comment-138 [...] ‘Mirror therapy is it all it’s cracked up to be?‘.  In the next blog post ‘Reflections, imagery, and illusions: the past, present and future of training the brain in CRPS‘, we’re looking more at the role of mirrors and graded mirror imagery in the role of [...] [...] ‘Mirror therapy is it all it’s cracked up to be?‘.  In the next blog post ‘Reflections, imagery, and illusions: the past, present and future of training the brain in CRPS‘, we’re looking more at the role of mirrors and graded mirror imagery in the role of [...]

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